"Jonathan Harper" (jbh) 04/16/2014 at 21:23 • Filed to: None

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can't say until I've driven one...

but this seems like a proper sport sedan, very proper indeed. check out !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! for lots of auto show pics @jbh1126

Anon > Jonathan Harper 04/16/2014 at 21:25

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Dem, fender flares...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Jonathan Harper 04/16/2014 at 21:30

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Big changes for this gen... It will surely be the fastest M3 ever, but I hope not too many of the intangibles have been lost.

newton > Jonathan Harper 04/16/2014 at 21:46

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My cat sounds better and etc.

Jonathan Harper > newton 04/16/2014 at 22:13

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etc etc

Manuél Ferrari > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 04/16/2014 at 23:01

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I just wonder if it will feel more special than a nicely tuned and modded E92 335is

Cause you can buy a used 335is for cheap and mod it. A brand new M3/M4 better be pretty damn awesome to pay new money for.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Manuél Ferrari 04/16/2014 at 23:08

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I'm sure it will, but I'm very interested to see some back-t0-back drives of the new car and ours, to see the pros' opinion of the two in relation to each other (like MT's drive of the M3 and 1M together).

Manuél Ferrari > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 04/16/2014 at 23:29

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I kind of feel like this car will be like the 996 911. Good car but not considered to be a classic.

The new AMG C Class car sea better on paper. It also reduced weight. But it has a 4L TT V8. That sounds yummy

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Manuél Ferrari 04/16/2014 at 23:55

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Will people wax poetic about the F8x like they did for the E9x? Only time will tell...

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr…

Manuél Ferrari > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 04/17/2014 at 00:04

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It's definitely possible. But somehow I just doubt it. Everyone has been tuning the 335 for years. This just seems like a factory performed version of it.

And I'm not saying this because I have the E9X M3. I want the M3 to still be king. I just am not sure it will be. The new AMG and the new ATS-V are formidable. And the next RS 4 and RS 5 will probably be awesome.

We'll just have to wait and see. I came wait until the Monkey does a head to head test against the competition.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Jonathan Harper 04/17/2014 at 03:19

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The look of these has really grown on me recently. I think they look fantastic, especially compared to the blandmobile that was the E90.

Not that I'd buy one mind you, but they do look good.

BKRM3 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 04/17/2014 at 09:51

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No. That engine is a turd. All the other improvements are pretty cool - more carbon, finally better calipers (on the steel brakes; screw carbon for track use). The iPad sticking out of the dash still sucks balls though. I'll never be done complaining about that.

I'm with Rusto regarding Chris Harris. I don't want the M3 to lose, and I'm not sure it would in a pure laptime test, but part of me wants to see BMW learn a lesson with people calling bullshit on fake M engines, fake sound in the cabin, etc. You can put a tarted up N55 in an M235i and no one cares, but going in this direction with the M3/4 is wrong.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > BKRM3 04/17/2014 at 10:00

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I hope reviewers use the phrase "end of an era" or something like that, in reference to our cars, while driving the new one. Faster? Sure. But better? I'm skeptical.

BKRM3 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 04/17/2014 at 10:16

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Relevant:

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > BKRM3 04/17/2014 at 10:18

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I actually mentioned this same video to Rusto above.

"the M3 is the one that you'll be telling your grandkids about"